Jeremy Newkirk

Jeremy Newkirk is the Owner and Operator of Roof Leaks & Moore in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He is accustomed to handling storms of all kinds, from the aftermath of ones that ravage his clients’ homes to the subsequent worries that linger plaguing their minds. Ever since he was a kid, Jeremy valued quality relationships with others above all, which has propelled him forward in his versatile career from running a paper to bartending to now managing a roofing company. The key to his success lies in networking, trusting, and giving without any reciprocal expectations.

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Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn:

  • Jeremy Newkirk talks about his childhood, his eclectic employment history, and his path to becoming an entrepreneur
  • What’s the most challenging part about being an entrepreneur?
  • How influential leadership and a positive mindset are essential
  • Jeremy stresses the importance of being proactive and knowing that failure is not an option
  • Adopting the idea that people just want to solve problems easily
  • Why you never file an insurance claim for your roof damage until you talk to a contractor

In this episode…

Like many, you probably take the luxury of a roof over your head for granted. So, what can you do if a storm comes along and ravages your roof or, even worse, risks your or your family’s safety?

Jeremy Newkirk empathizes with this worry. As a result, he started a roofing business specializing in disaster restoration for commercial and residential properties. His work helps homeowners and insurance companies complete roof diagnostics to proactively figure out any coverage issues. By combining handling the contracting and the insurance company issues, he can streamline the whole process and take the headache out of the minds of his clients.

In this episode of The Same Day Podcast, Mat Zalk talks with Jeremy Newkirk, Owner and Operator of Roof Leaks & Moore. Jeremy discusses how he helps people reclaim their homes, their cash, and their sanity by making roof repairs and the insurance process for filing claims easier. Jeremy elaborates on the key to his success, how he started hustling when he was nine, his philosophy for helping others, and the benefits of networking to scale a business. Stay tuned for a “leak” behind the entrepreneurial lens!

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Sponsor for this episode…

This episode is brought to you by Keyrenter Property Management.

Keyrenter Property Management is a full-service property management company who helps their clients buy, renovate, and operate real estate assets.

They help clients build wealth while taking the headache out of property management.

That’s why, no matter what rental you have — single-family homes, condos, townhomes, or apartments — they can give you the management solutions you need.

To learn more about their services, go to or send them an email at [email protected].

Episode Transcript

Intro 0:05

Welcome to The Same Day Podcast where we discuss driving incremental business growth and other topics related to real estate, property management and entrepreneurship. Now to the show at hand.

Mat Zalk 0:20

Mat Zalk out here I’m the host of The Same Day Podcast where I connect with top business experts and real estate leaders. Some past guests include Mike Bosch with Techno Capital, John (Chip) Gaberino, local entrepreneur and restaurateur Lee Easton of AeroVision, and a bunch of others. Check out those episodes if you want to hear about the entrepreneurial journey and how people have pushed their businesses forward step by step. Today’s episode is brought to you by Keyrenter Property Management. At Keyrenter Property Management we’re a full service property management company helping our clients buy, renovate and operate real estate assets. We help our clients build wealth while taking the headache out of property management. Listen, Jeremy, you know better than most that renovation work takes a ton of focus and effort putting the pieces together in the right order requires significant consideration. You don’t want to do a whole bunch of work installing cabinets, flooring, and then painting and then realize that you’re, a storm, you know leaks into your roof and floods your floors that you just put in. Keyrenter can help with the general contracting steps that it takes to put, to put together a nice renovation. That’s why no matter what rental you have, single-family homes, condos, townhomes, apartments, we have the management solutions that you need to go to or email us at [email protected] I want to, before introducing today’s guest I want to give a huge shout out to my BNI chapter Green Country Business Alliance. Over the past couple of years, I’ve really developed some deep friendships and great business relationships through BNI. And I respect the work that BNI does as an organization. It’s it’s a an awesome kind of network marketing group. If nothing else, it promotes the philosophy of givers gain, which is a great life philosophy, one that I ascribe to basically give and give and give and eventually it’ll come back to you but don’t be concerned with it coming back because eventually it will. And the Go-Giver is a great book that my colleague Lisa Goins recommended to me. I’ve given it out to a lot of people since reading it myself. It’s a great fable that really embodies the givers gain philosophy totally unrelated from BNI unrelated to BNI, but certainly a great book. Check it out if you haven’t read it. My guest today is Jeremy Newkirk, owner and operator of Roof Leaks & Moore spelled M-O-O-R-E. I want to understand that because Moore is a town in Oklahoma but has nothing to do with that. Roof Leaks & Moore brings excellence to roofing, roof leaks, and, and they specialize in disaster restoration for residential and commercial properties. Roof Leaks & Moore also helps insurance companies and homeowners complete roof diagnostics in order to figure out coverage issues. Jeremy’s had a strong work ethic, having started doing odd jobs, ton of different things since the age of nine, which is incredible. I started at 14. I thought I was, I was a badass, but you’re nine years old out there running a paper out and doing a bunch of other stuff. But I want to hear about someone who told them early on that he has to learn how to make a living without breaking his back. So what did he do? He started a roofing business. That’s one of the most physically intense industries in the world. But we’re gonna hear how that, how that all came about. Jeremy, welcome.

Jeremy Newkirk 3:18

Hey, thank you. Thanks for having me.

Mat Zalk 3:20

Man. I want to, I want to understand, I mean, you started working at nine years old. That’s incredible. I want to understand what you were doing, how it was legal, maybe it wasn’t. But like, Tell me your journey that got you from literally a place nine years old. You got your first job to where you are today. With uh, you know, an entrepreneur fundamentally working.

Jeremy Newkirk 3:40

A roofing company. Yeah, so, man, from at nine years old, it probably, it probably wasn’t slave labor, because I was willing. I mean, my parents were paying me so I couldn’t, I couldn’t complain. You know, my first job. I said, I wanted a paper route. It was like, that was like 11. And I had to do, my brother had to sign the papers because he was old enough.

Mat Zalk 4:04

And you’re already, you’re already a seasoned veteran by that point.

Jeremy Newkirk 4:07

Yeah, yeah, I didn’t. So, we we’re making little leather pins, like little painted leather pins, like lapel pins, Montana, and they were like, cuz it was, it was fantastic. I made a bunch of money. I was killing it. And all sorts of fun stuff.

Mat Zalk 4:23

Were you on a Strider at nine years old and you really hit, you already had pedals? No training wheels?

Jeremy Newkirk 4:27

Oh, yeah, man. I was mountain biking in Montana.

Mat Zalk 4:32

I love it’s in transition from, from doing that into a paper routw and then how do you how did you? How did you continue forward?

Jeremy Newkirk 4:39

Man I was. I was volunteering at a hospital for three years. While I did that paper route and worked odd jobs detailing cars. You worked at a fast food restaurant and finally, I’ve actually, before I left Montana, I was working at a science warehouse where it was science equipment for schools all over the US. We had dead animals and chemicals and all sorts of stuff we were making kits for. It was an awesome job. I loved it. And then met a girl went to Vegas and and became a bartender.

Mat Zalk 5:17

Had, had you, but being a bartender in Vegas is like a coveted job. You make a ton of money. How do you just petty waltz into Vegas and get a job as a bartender?

Jeremy Newkirk 5:25

Yeah, man, so I couldn’t find a job for a couple of weeks when I first got there, didn’t know anybody. And I had an idea that if I just worked at night, at a convenience store, I could network my way into a job. So I met a, I met all these bartenders, right they were jugglers at the Rio ended up having a, having a good conversation got held up one night this guy stuck a gun in my face. It was wild, you know, just hey, do you want cigarettes with that just gave him the money. It was, it was very intense.

Mat Zalk 5:58

Did you have cigarettes?

Jeremy Newkirk 6:01

Yeah. Well, I couldn’t really think of anything else. Man. He came in, he saw. He’s cursing me, you know? And it. Yeah, it was pretty wild, man. And yeah, so like, yeah. Do you want cigarettes a day? Like, yeah, give me some Newports, you know. So he’s got some Newports he didn’t even get, he didn’t even get a carton. I just gave him, like a pack of them. So, and then he was he like, ran out. And, you know, we called the cops, place got shut down, had tape all over it. And then the next night, those bartenders, they couldn’t, they were like, oh, man, what happened. And they told me about this place opening up, but I didn’t know what it was going to be. The Blue Martini was like Las Vegas became like one of the local hotspots. And I just, I got a job there as a, as a busser talent, you know, talk telling that story about what happened in these bartenders I knew. And within four months, I was the lead barback and became a bartender and it was, I did that for years. But I always knew man, I saw the people around me. And I was like, Dude, I don’t want to do this in my 40s. Like, it just looked hard. Yeah. And so you know, I’ve worked my way out of that. And, you know, over the next several years, I was, I went to Texas, and I was in a bar at one o’clock in the afternoon cleaning a bar. I was talking to a roofer man, and he said, Hey, come and check out what we’re doing. And so I think a lot of what brought me to that, like, I’ve always had that attitude of wanting to be an entrepreneur, but I didn’t have a way forward. You know. And so I, within six months of starting roofing, I was leading a team of six guys, and you know, over the next couple of years, just learned all about the business, you know, that the insurance, roofing business is completely different than restoration, or, you know, like flipping a house or something like that, it’s, it becomes more of a, how can we help this homeowner with as much as possible with their home with what they’ve been given? Because it’s in a lot of ways, it can be a very opportune thing for homeowners. And so we want to help them and benefit them in that way.

Mat Zalk 8:08

Meaning, meaning the insurance company is willing to give them a chunk of cash to replace the roof, and any other damage that was caused as a result of the roof being destroyed. And you can take that money and actually do whatever you want with it. So you can, you can restore the roof. But if you have anything left over, you can do other stuff. I mean, what’s the, what is the.

Jeremy Newkirk 8:25

Oh, yeah, well, yeah, for sure. You know, like, if you’re planning on, if you’re planning on changing anything in this house, like I’ve helped homeowners where they got a great, they got a great chunk of money. And they’re like, Jeremy, we wanted to do an addition on our house. And so I brought in a construction company to help with that, and just had, hey, here’s this, and it gave them a great starting point. Because when you have that huge chunk of money, it’s, you know, like, how am I going to take advantage of this as much as possible? And that’s what I try and help people do.

Mat Zalk 8:58

Right. So, traditionally, what happens, you transitioned from working in the bar to this roofing company, you were then leading a team? And then yeah, how did you make the jump into entrepreneurship? I mean, that’s the potentially the, the, the worst nightmare for any employer is, you know, the teacher guy has to do everything you’re doing and then he jumps off and does it on his own. Meanwhile, he was your most productive, use your most productive person, right? So the business wants to give you a little bit more money to stay. But you as a, as a, as an entrepreneurial guy, just decide, you know, I’d rather do it on my own.

Jeremy Newkirk 9:31

Yeah, man. So I was on a roof with a, with an engineer one time and out in Sugar Land outside of Houston. And I was having an honest conversation with this engineer on this roof explaining to him what was going on with the shingle, and he really appreciated the honesty and just like how well I communicated, right. And so he offered me a job, and I didn’t. I was like, No, I’m fine. You know, I didn’t, I didn’t really think twice about it, and then a couple of months passed and it was just this, this business is I was doing everybody’s job. It was not something I mean, I was I, some people know how to get money and some people don’t know how to get money. And when you’re in charge of getting money for everybody, you really become kind of like a babysitter. And I did not, I really didn’t. It was, it was more of a job than I wanted. And so, you know, I called this guy up and I went in for an interview and met and kind of figured out what they do. And I ended up getting a certification as a registered roof observer at, for to like, do like the forensic analysis of storm damage on skyscrapers and all sorts of stuff like that, right. And so I did that. I did that for two years. And that was awesome. It was great. But it was, I did not like it, like the amount of, I spent five hours to six hours a day behind my computer writing reports. And, you know, it just, it was, it was killing me and travel. I traveled all over the state of Texas. I mean, you name it, I’ve been there. And there’s, it’s, it’s a big state. So

Mat Zalk 11:15

It’s a big state. I know. I was born and raised there. Big State.

Jeremy Newkirk 11:18

Yeah, it’s a big state. So I moved up to Dallas, and we got hit with a storm, I quit my, I quit my job. No one I was, no one I was gonna know when I was going to do something else. And I went, I helped a friend of mine open up this really awesome bar called Legacy. Legacy Hall in Frisco, Texas, awesome place to three storey place with a brewery on top. It was awesome. So I did that for a couple months when I first moved to Dallas, helping him open that place up with a group of bartenders and, and then this storm hit Carrollton. And it was, it was game on. And so I started growing and expanding down there. And then, we had, we had some problems with my wife’s family, and had to come up to Tulsa. And it just, man, at Dallas is a different place. But Tulsa, I love Tulsa. And so coming here and being able to bless my, bless my mother in law and be here for them and just change stuff. It’s been good for us. And so I just, I am doing what I used to do. Down in everywhere I’ve been, but I didn’t really start a business until, what, 6-7 years ago.

Mat Zalk 12:41

And what’s, what’s the hardest part about being an entrepreneur? I mean, what obstacles did you face? What? What challenges have you overcome?

Jeremy Newkirk 12:48

Man really being responsible for everything, being responsible for the marketing, being responsible for the even, even just because sales, sales always seems to come easy, but it’s once, once I figured out all the money side, it made it so much easier.

Mat Zalk 13:11

And then money side you mean what like working capital collections.

Jeremy Newkirk 13:15

Man, not even, not even working capital. More just, more just keeping track, I just didn’t know how to keep track of money until I, until I had a bunch of it to keep track of right. You know, like most of us don’t live within a budget. I’m not the type of person that just buys stuff. So that’s, that was never my issue. But I never lived on a budget until I started running a business.

Mat Zalk 13:40

So, what do you use now to keep track? And what software? Do you use? What, what system?

Jeremy Newkirk 13:44

So, I just use QuickBooks, but the way, so like, all my software. So, what I’ve been able to do, and this is, this is actually a really cool feature that I started is I can get you a quote for your home. Today, within a couple hours. If I get your address, right, all you have to do is just request it. The only thing is I don’t know about your roof at that point is what’s underneath it. And if there’s rot problems, right, but I can give you a rough estimate of how much it’s going to cost with, with fair certainty within a couple hours. And so, having that software, I can, I can present someone with full details. And what’s even better about that with this software when we do get like a major storm, or I’m in a storm situation and homeowners haven’t filed a claim yet. I can go out to their house, take all the pictures, get the squares that an insurance adjuster would put in and I can send that entire estimate directly to the insurance company immediately that day without them having to have an adjuster out.

Mat Zalk 14:50

So I mean part of, part of what you’re solving as an entrepreneur, what you figured out is there’s a bottleneck. There’s a problem. There’s an issue that I can solve it by doing this stuff by being more responsive, more proactive, getting new things like MBA service, but also working directly with the insurance company. I mean, tell me about working at Amway and what you learned in terms of positive mindset in terms of, you know, just, just breaking down barriers in thought and in actual, you know, in your business, how did that help you? And, you know, get

Jeremy Newkirk 15:16

To where you are today. Yeah, so John Maxwell says that leadership is influence. And so, if I can influence people well and serve them well, because that’s part of leadership too. Man, I, I think, I think having, having the positive mindset of like, I’m going to solve this problem, no matter what is so essential to everyone, I think that’s our biggest problem. As, as everyone like, when you don’t think you can, and you can’t, but if you think you can, you can, for the most part now, like, we’re gonna live in reality. But if you think you can, you can achieve that stuff. People in Amway, they can do that. They were wrecked. I was with them right before, right before the Internet took, like, Amazon just destroyed everything. They went from, like 15 billion to like 5 billion in a couple years. And it was because the formula’s just not what people want that direct, like they, they can’t perform on that level. But what I learned from that was everyone is a potential customer. But not everyone wants to participate in this, in this stuff. Right. And so I wanted something like roofing that I’m actually fulfilling a need that they have, you know, like, everyone needs soap, but they don’t need to pay three times what everyone else is going to pay for it.

Mat Zalk 16:54

Yeah, so, but, but being able to solve the project, and I love what you say about just like the, the mentality, the positive mindset of just being able to get it done. There are so many people and I face this in our organization. It’s like, if it comes up to my desk at Keyrenter, I often wonder why it wasn’t solved by somebody else. But sometimes it literally just takes you as an entrepreneur, or you as a boss, or you as whatever, saying, there’s nobody else behind me. If I don’t solve this, nobody’s gonna solve this. Right? It’s already come up. So that, that alone, knowing that there’s nobody backstopping you, is you, you will do whatever it takes, I mean, in our industry, just 100 examples, but like, you will call whoever you need to call and say, what you’re telling me is not possible. I’m doing it my way. And I’m doing it today. And I’m giving you the information that whatever, whatever it is, I’m thinking of, like utility companies in a very, very simplistic example, where they say, well, the owner of the deed has to get it done. They’re the ones that have to turn on water. It’s like, No, our management contract says we have the right to turn on the water, by the way, they’re in Europe for the next nine months. So if you don’t want water turned on for nine months, you know, that’s one possibility. Otherwise, I’m handling it, and I’m handling it today. And just having that attitude of like, this is gonna get done, Mr. Mrs. utility worker, or, you know, I’m coming down there, and I’m going to be really upset about things or I’m coming down. I’m gonna share with you, like, this needs to get done. And that’s just part of entrepreneurship. It’s like, nobody’s behind me saying, I’ll handle this. If you can’t do it. Failure is not an option, right?

Jeremy Newkirk 18:21

Well, yeah, most definitely. But you also have to just get it done now. Like, get it done. Now, when something pops up, if you don’t have anything to do, do it now, because of letting things fall through the cracks, like you just have to, you have to be proactive, and in absolutely all aspects to be, to be an entrepreneur, to be honest with you, though, man, I probably have one of the easiest company types to manage. I really do. I believe roofing is probably one of the easiest things for anyone to do. Why is that? Because it doesn’t require a ton of overhead. So, all of, I mean, you got to think that like, all of the money that is coming from people, most of it’s not financed, if it’s insurance based if it is finance, okay, cool. I do some financing. I try. I tried to stay away from it. But if it’s insurance based, those people have money and they’re usually ready to buy, like, I always get a check from people right and so with, with that, like there’s really no overhead I have accounts, everything is drop shipped, I don’t have to have a huge lot. I don’t have to have a huge place to keep products at a large scale. And so it’s just it. It makes it very managerial. I just have to know exactly. And that’s the thing, man, a lot of people that you’re dealing with, when it comes to roofers, they’re sales guys. They don’t know how the function of the roof is supposed to be done. And that’s, is, nothing against them. It’s just time and experience. And a lot of these people that work on them or sell you a roof may not have the qualifications to know some of the, or just not know some of this stuff. And so, you know, that’s why it’s important to always, what I tell people is use someone that you’ve been that has been recommended to you, right? Either it’s me or someone else, use someone that a club that someone that you trust has recommended, because I’ve seen a lot of people just get had. And what I tried to do man is I always try and give people have better product than what they had before.

Mat Zalk 20:40

The whole, the whole idea of, you know, the buck stops with you reminds me of this guy, Mick Ebeling, who is an entrepreneur that I saw at a Global Leadership Conference, conference, Global Leadership Conference, GLC in DC at Entrepreneurs’ Organization’s annual meeting. And he has this thing called Not Impossible Labs, and they do these things that everyone says is impossible. They solve these projects, these problems, it’s absolutely incredible. There’s one called Project Daniel, where this kid from South Sudan, where there’s still plenty of, I guess, the like IEDs, or landmines or whatever ends up getting blown up, he’s just a case like 11 or 12. And he loses both his arms. Now he can eat on his own, he can dress on his own whatever. And they end up going to South Sudan and Sudan. With a 3d printer, they meet this kid, they find a solution and they create these prosthesis, these prosthetic arms for him that he controls using, I guess, whatever little nubs are left, and he ends up feeding himself in the kind of culmination of this, of this beautiful video that you can find on YouTube, where you can go to, you can just look it up the Not Impossible Labs. But, it’s just a beautiful story. I mean, part of this, part of the problem is, once these guys leave, there’s no, you know, they have to then find batteries to do it. And they don’t have the resources to maintain and continue the work that was done. So, they find solutions that work in the local environment there, you know, that doesn’t require a ton of software, they can reprint with a, with a, they leave them enough resin. And they can, you know, call Nick back and get a little bit more resin drop shipped or whatever. But they, you know, they, they find solutions that work with the local environments that they’re not beholden to all sorts of grandiose technologies over time as they need to reinvent or recreate, you know, what was originally produced to these guys, he can now feed himself. It’s a pretty amazing story, but nothing’s impossible. Entrepreneurs are solving it worldwide, for sure. All these little problems.

Jeremy Newkirk 22:29

Yeah, I’m not, I’m definitely not solving people’s problems like that. But it’s that I’ll scale and get big,

Mat Zalk 22:34

Big and small and entrepreneurs are doing it. Tell me a little bit about the role of networking in, in your prospective role and networking and growing your business and kind of incremental, incremental advancement.

Jeremy Newkirk 22:46

Yeah, and so I got into networking. But you know, I will always be a people person. That’s, you know, I think, I think I was told I was a salesman when I was young, you know, by my family and

Mat Zalk 22:59

Seven years old selling little pins in Montana.

Jeremy Newkirk 23:02

Hi, Yo, you want this? Uh, well, I was just painting that. So I wasn’t slinging it. I was. Yeah, so, um, man networking. So I did it. When I first got into roofing, and I saw the benefit of it, it was actually a BNI down in The Woodlands, Texas, like 1740 for some great people. And we got hit with a hailstorm and I saw the benefit. I mean, it was amazing the amount of people that I’ve met that I just, my phone won’t stop ringing for like three days straight. And, and it was mostly people that I met in that networking group where, were, where I was told to. And so that was, that was the first time I kind of saw the power of that. And then I did it, man the first time that everybody I do everybody’s roof man. I the first time I met when I first moved to Dallas, like the first week, I shook this guy’s hand at church. And three weeks later, I was doing his roof because it was, a, it was a third roof. He’d had to get done in McKinney, Texas because they just get smoked all the time.

Mat Zalk 24:07

As insurance right?

Jeremy Newkirk 24:07

He’s doing his roof twice in like, yeah, it’s crazy. But yeah, that’s, I love the, I love the interaction. There’s some, there’s something about being an extrovert and appreciating people like that. But when I moved to Tulsa, I met this guy. Shout out to Andrew Brooks, actually, Andrew Brooks is great. And he met him, met him in a Starbucks and he invited me into his group and you know, I knew what networking was. I was in that group for close to six months and did not get anything out of that group. Right.

Mat Zalk 24:50

I haven’t given. Give eventually comes back.

Jeremy Newkirk 24:52

That’s right. I knew exactly what it was. And then the end, the truth is it’s a trust factor. Right, it, the trust factor. There are so, are many people that will sit in those groups for a short period of time, and they give up. And so now, two and a half years later, we did last year, we did 370,000, between, like 10 people in our group, we don’t have a huge amount of people, but we did. We did a huge chunk, we got an electrician, we got a realtor, of course, mortgage lender, plumber, people like that, and, and we just meet weekly. And, you know, it’s, it’s transition to sometimes you’re getting a bunch of leads out of that group. And then you know, other times, but the consistency over time is what matters. If you are we’re, you know, if you understand what networking is, consider it all it is, is consistency and building relationships, right? And, and when you prove yourself in those relationships explodes, like you get a little burst. When you help one person in a network, it kind of does this little, Oh, this, like, it kind of pops. And then you’ll help another person later. And all of a sudden, I mean, we’ve had, we’ve had people in our network where, you know, our realtor, she ended up helping three people in the same family moved to Oklahoma, I ended up helping them with two of their roofs, our heat, heat and air guy came in it just boom, boom, boom. And that’s, that’s the power of a networking group. But that’s the

Mat Zalk 26:24

Power of trust. That’s the power of trust. Somebody, somebody trusts you and because you trust other people, it’s an immediate slam dunk. It’s the easiest thing in the world because it’s just trust.

Jeremy Newkirk 26:35

Yeah, and so it’s just been such a huge benefit. And I, I believe in it wholeheartedly. I think every entrepreneur needs to network. No matter what that looks like, right,

Mat Zalk 26:46

Right. Let’s switch gears a little bit. What are you inside of roofing? I don’t know what I mean. Maybe you’re gonna surprise me. But what are you reading? What industry? Publication podcasts? Do you follow? Either in roofing, which again, would surprise me or outside of roofing? What are you listening to? What do you, what are you reading? Generally speaking,

Jeremy Newkirk 27:03

Man, I’ve been listening to a lot of Patrick Bet-David. Valuetainment. Check him out. He’s awesome. He’s, he does a bunch of videos on, like, just running business. He’s a great entrepreneur. He’s out of, he’s out of Florida. But he’s been doing videos for a minute. I like, I mean, when it comes to roofing that I’ve watched I look at some of these Facebook roofing pages, things like that. And I always enjoy the crazy stuff that people do on a roof. Like it’s just like water. Like what? Um, you know, I mean, the, you’ll have, you’ll have a patch that doesn’t even like people will make straight cuts, you know, they’ll make, they’ll make, they’ll take a square out like, oh, yeah, that’s where the hole is. Right? And they’ll take an entire square out, and then they don’t, they just put a square of shingles back down and cut exactly how well that’s, that’s not how shingles don’t keep water out of your roof. They keep the sun from expanding and contracting. What’s underneath your roof to keep it watertight. The under the sun is what keeps the roof. So there’s just, um, I mean, and or, the damage that happens, dude, I met a lady in Wylie, Texas one time this was wild. I go into her house. Great lady, super nice. And she has a sling on her shoulder and she’s walking up and oh, hi, how are you? I’m like, Oh, I’m sorry, what happened? And I hadn’t gone into their house yet. And she’s like, the hill came through the hill came through the roof. Oh, two by four, and it broke her collarbone. Oh my god. Wild Man. So I mean, it was like grapefruits falling from the sky. That was wild. Like that doesn’t happen all the time. But it happens. So I actually, I actually

Mat Zalk 29:03

Did a roof years ago, or I had a roof done years ago on the background and apartment complex and there was a, like a covered parking area. So, we had this whole roof done. It was like a bunch of storage areas where the maintenance guys kept all their stuff. Then this, then the, the, the full area where the parking was and then a laundry room. And at some point they did the roof, it looked great. I walked up to the second story of the apartment complex and I realized they had done it with two colors of shingles. So like, the pallets of shingles were two colors. It was like in Chennai and it was like you guys didn’t see that it was segments to color like it was weather wood and something else and he was like, well if they gave us the wrong color and I was like nobody, like, read the things, nobody read the names on, the on the dip. And he was like well I can fix it but, I need, I need enough money to you know from another job to be able to go back and buy the shingles right? And I was like, Dude, if you did a poor job on the first one, how can I give you a second job to so we loved it. I was hoping it would just fade over time and kind of even out at some point, we ended up selling the property. But still, I was just like, God, the, the, the craftsmanship on this thing has really left me wanting.

Jeremy Newkirk 30:13

Yeah, the management and knowing because, roofs are simple man, they really are. They’re like this, right? But it’s the flashing around, where it’s, where it’s decked out, where and how it’s installed. Right this, that, and the other, there’s a lot of things that I mean, it’s very simple. If you know how to put a puzzle together, it’s gonna make sense. But, you know, jet and apt people want service. And what I found in America is a lot of people don’t want to know, they’re just like, solve my problem. So, you know, push this button, solve my problem. And, and so, I’m trying to, I’m trying to equip people. And so I was shooting a video earlier today, just kind of like an introductory when someone calls me, I’m going to blah, blah, you know, welcome to the exam, or this is, you know, this is what to expect in this process. Right? And, you know, video. Yeah, easy as possible. Just so that, you know, because I know, that’s what people want.

Mat Zalk 31:16

So I had one other question that I wanted to ask, Oh, shoot not, I wish I’d written it down, reflects more. I lost it. We’ve been talking to Jeremy Newkirk, owner of Roof Leaks & Moore can find Jeremy at Roof Leaks & Moore More spelled M-O-O-R-E Jeremy, anything else? Anywhere else people can find you? They want to reach out and get a roof done.

Jeremy Newkirk 31:38

Yeah, they can reach me on Facebook. And they can check out my blog on my website. It’s Roof Leaks & Moore Blogs. If you go on my website, you can find them. But there’s like, how to find a leak. Very practical stuff. Do I have storm damage? You know, it just practical steps to know that stuff so that you’re well educated and you’re not being told by somebody, oh, you have a storm damage and you can’t, you can’t see it and you don’t know what’s

Mat Zalk 32:06

And people can reach out to you before they reach out to their insurance to see if they can, how best to file a claim and how best to get through this. But

Jeremy Newkirk 32:13

Never, never file a claim until you have someone that you trust tell you the truth about your roof, ever was, after doing that, because it will stay on your record for three years. Got it. And if they don’t buy it, it’s a black eye on your, on your insurance

Mat Zalk 32:29

Device. So, have somebody, have a roof expert look at your roof before they, before you submit a claim as a homeowner. That’s right. That’s Jeremy, thanks for being here. Really appreciate you being on the show.

Jeremy Newkirk 32:39

Thank you, man. I appreciate it, man. See ya.

Outro 32:45

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